Intrada Soundtrack Forum

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[quote="Roger Feigelson This statement might be a bit misleading: The original release on Capitol contained only 20 minutes of soundtrack material if you subtract the singing of Glen Campbell.

The original Capitol release had NO soundtrack material on it. It was all pop versions of some of the themes...bearing hardly any resemblence to the actual score in the film.[/quote]

I noticed this, as well, in Tom's otherwise informative review. Does anyone know the circumstances that led to Artie Butler arranging (re-composing?) Elmer Bernstein's themes, which Elmer conducted? Was it simply a marketing strategy designed to tap into the pop music market and the presence of Glen Campbell. I never paid much attention to Campbell's career, but I am wondering if he was on contract to Capitol Records at the time, and thus what we ended up with?

A similar travesty happened with Elmer Bernstein's excellent original score for BABY THE RAIN MUST FALL. Although I will confess that the gospel rock arrangements on this recording are enjoyable, in their own right, and probably comes close to Elmer jamming.

Really looking forward to the new Tadlow re-recording of this new score. I was impressed by James Fitzpatrick's conducting of Elmer's themes on the recent Silva Collection. The album is a mixture, so you have to look to identify which tracks are his. I thought he nailed the cue from ZULU DAWN especially.


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I noticed this, as well, in Tom's otherwise informative review. Does anyone know the circumstances that led to Artie Butler arranging (re-composing?) Elmer Bernstein's themes, which Elmer conducted? Was it simply a marketing strategy designed to tap into the pop music market and the presence of Glen Campbell. I never paid much attention to Campbell's career, but I am wondering if he was on contract to Capitol Records at the time, and thus what we ended up with?

A similar travesty happened with Elmer Bernstein's excellent original score for BABY THE RAIN MUST FALL. Although I will confess that the gospel rock arrangements on this recording are enjoyable, in their own right, and probably comes close to Elmer jamming.


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Robert, I remember finding a copy of the the supposed "Soundtrack" lp to Baby, the Rain Must Fall in the late 70's and being so disappointed because I thought the main title song was so pretty. As to Cambell, I vaguely- and I stress that word- recall in his heyday (1968-1970) that he did record for Capitol. I could go to used record stores back then and find dozens of copies of that stale lp release. It's fairly apparent watching True Grit today that Campbell was the weakest link in the movie. When he did another movie in 1970 with Kim Darby called Norwood it was a colossal flop.

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The closest I ever came to NORWOOD was looking at a one sheet.

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Well, that's closer than me, the nearest I got was an ad in the Dallas Morning News!

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As I have never actually heard the album, could you please tell what is exactly the case with BABY THE RAIN MUST FALL ? Are only the songs re-recorded, or is the whole score re-recorded (perhaps in a 'pop' sound like True Grit) ? I'm not sure how many songs were in the movie but the opening main title was instrumental, wasn't it (with the main credits appearing on the b&w speeding road) ? And if I'm aware correctly, there exist both an LP and a CD (though surely not a complete edition), are they the same recording ?

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Thanks a lot, Robert, for your detailed and helpful response. I've seen the movie only once some time ago and I remember how I was charmed both by the film itself and by the Elmer's score, and since then I'm hoping to see a FSM/Intrada treatment of it. And even more now, after hearing from you about the existing album. The chances are perhaps increasing now after FSM announced their new partnership with the Sony/Columbia catalogue ?

Also I'm sorry to hear how you feel. Perhaps listening to some great music might improve your mood (that usually works for me). Be well soon!

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I agree that a mention of Artie Butler jazz arrangements would have clarified the issue completely. I do think that James Fitzpatrick is quite a good conductor and seems to have gotten the most out of the recording.
Tom

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Herbert Spencer