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 Post subject: Re: INTRADA Announces Cliff Eidelman's STAR TREK VI
PostPosted: Thu Mar 01, 2012 1:03 pm 
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Completely agreed on the need for more expanded (or unreleased) Eidelman scores! A very gifted composer and very underrated. I think Star Trek VI may still be my favorite Trek score -- so many great themes and cool elements unique to Trek. Lots of memorable parts in the film with a perfect meld of visuals and music.

My top 5 Eidelman want list:
1. Christopher Columbus: The Discovery, complete and remastered. I know Intrada wanted to release this score at the time of the film, but unfortunately Varese outbid them. I say unfortunately because Doug on this very board said he would've released a longer album if they'd gotten it. Seriously, of all Eidelman's work THIS, even moreso than Star Trek VI is his most epic, complex score. It's also the longest and would really take a two-disc set to be given full justice. I've actually sat through the awful film twice just to hear Eidelman's masterpiece. Some of the absolute best music was left off the original album. I hope Varese don't have rights in perpetuity on this, but if they do then I seriously hope they consider it for a future Club release!

2. Meteor Man -- no brainer there. Totally unreleased.

3. Free Willy 3 complete and remastered. Original album less than half an hour in length! Again worried that Varese may have perpetuity rights. My dream release would be a box set of all three wonderful theatrical Free Willy scores complete and remastered -- Poledouris's original classic also had less than half an hour of score on the original release, and as for the sequel, which featured multiple new themes and interesting variations on the original themes, it only received a measly 3 cues (less than 10 minutes!) on the commercial soundtrack, full of crappy songs of course.

4. Triumph of the Spirit, complete and remastered. I'm not sure how much unreleased music there is but this is one of Eidelman's most powerful scores and I always found the sound on the original album to be lacking.

5. The Lizzie McGuire Movie -- I heard from a friend that this is actually really good, and I've listened to the 7 minute suite on the commercial release which was very nice indeed. Otherwise unreleased. Perhaps a remote possibility for Intrada given the Disney connection?

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 Post subject: Re: INTRADA Announces Cliff Eidelman's STAR TREK VI
PostPosted: Thu Mar 01, 2012 1:17 pm 
I think Epic Records released both Free Willy 1 & 2. So it would be great to have a 2 CD set from Intrada.

As for FW3 yeah I know less than 1/2 of score (ouch). Hopefully Varese will open their vaults and release a couple of DX Ed. of Eidelman's scores. They done it w/Beltrami.


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 Post subject: Re: INTRADA Announces Cliff Eidelman's STAR TREK VI
PostPosted: Thu Mar 01, 2012 2:44 pm 
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If Varese and Intrada pass on it perhaps LaLaLand could give it a go -- they released the expanded Star Trek V, originally on Epic. And they like Poledouris too.

It's really sad that the complete released scores for all three Free Willy scores don't even fill up a single disc when combined (less than 70 minutes!) There's a lot of wonderful orchestral music untapped here.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 02, 2012 7:45 pm 
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I just got Star Trek VI from the hamsters, and it's glorious.

Thanks guys !!!


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 Post subject: Re: INTRADA Announces Cliff Eidelman's STAR TREK VI
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Eidelman's album assembly was always a very good representation of the score given the time constraints he was given.
I think the complete score plays better; some the abridgements were clever but the connective tissue give the original cues greater power. Some of the shorter cues that were understandably omitted from the album (such as "Guess Who's Coming") give extra splashes of color to the score.

The sound is really nice. I never thought that the original album sounded bad, per se. There was room for improvement, perhaps, but I'm hearing a level of detail in the recording I wasn't able to before. Snare drums have more of a "snap" to them, bells ring a bit truer.


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 Post subject: Re: INTRADA Announces Cliff Eidelman's STAR TREK VI
PostPosted: Sat Mar 17, 2012 2:42 am 
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Enjoyed the trailer music, shame the film soundtrack did not sound like this. I had hoped the new presentation could do something about it but sadly it still sounds flat as if it was peformed by about 30 players. Never much liked Armin Steiner's recordings.

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