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 Post subject: Can Varese Ever Satisfy "Fans"?
PostPosted: Thu Feb 08, 2018 12:48 am 
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Serious question. People constantly begged for more expansions, and now that they get them in greater numbers people still argue that the label is holding back. People wanted better mastering decisions, but there are still complaints of substantial dynamic range compression on albums where it clearly doesn't exist. Packaging is often complained about, usually by what seems to be some guy with five different accounts of differing personalities, as if CDs are some sacred item. At least it all provides some amusement.


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 Post subject: Re: Can Varese Ever Satisfy "Fans"?
PostPosted: Thu Feb 08, 2018 7:18 am 
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I will be happy if they ever release a Deleuxe Edition of my favorite score from their back catalogue, Peter Bernstein's first Ewoks score. I don't care for the movie but score is great. :)


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 Post subject: Re: Can Varese Ever Satisfy "Fans"?
PostPosted: Sun Feb 11, 2018 5:35 am 
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T. Newman Fan wrote:
Serious question. People constantly begged for more expansions, and now that they get them in greater numbers people still argue that the label is holding back. People wanted better mastering decisions, but there are still complaints of substantial dynamic range compression on albums where it clearly doesn't exist. Packaging is often complained about, usually by what seems to be some guy with five different accounts of differing personalities, as if CDs are some sacred item. At least it all provides some amusement.


I don't think their marketing plans do them any favours. Soundtrack fans are always focused on their Varese Club range - people keep asking when the next batch is coming out - but these fans miss a lot of Varese's archive CD stuff which goes under the radar, simply because they're not Club releases. For example, last year, there were six Club releases - Stanley & Iris/Pete N'Tillie, Under Siege 2, The Black Cauldron, Stand And Deliver, Almost An Angel and The Haunting. That's not many compared to La La Land and Intrada, and most fans want more. But Varese also released these archive titles on CD in the last year:

Revenge of the Ninja
Barefoot In The Park/The Odd Couple
The Yakuza
The West Wing
The Stephen King Collection
Heaven Can Wait/Racing With The Moon
Smokey and The Bandit I and II
Charlotte's Web
Thief of Hearts
Popeye
Barbarella
On Golden Pond


and that doesn't even include their archive vinyl stuff!

If you look on the Varese site, these CDs are not listed in the Club section, so you'd assume they'd be in another category. Peter Hackman talks on FSM about some of these titles in the WE HEAR YOU range - but there's no such section on the Varese site. There is a 'Limited Edition' range - but this is only for smaller, contemporary films that have just come out. Well, that's what I thought, because on inspection I found a lot of the supposed We Hear You titles in the 'Limited Edition' section. It's a bit muddled.

Varese really should put ALL their archive soundtrack CDs under the Varese Club category because they'd get a lot more attention from fans. 18 Club releases certainly sounds better than six.

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 Post subject: Re: Can Varese Ever Satisfy "Fans"?
PostPosted: Sun Feb 11, 2018 7:30 am 
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Besides different album producers, I think one reason they don't market those soundtracks under the Club is because they are extra niche. I am extremely thrilled to have almost all of the releases you mentioned, but I think many followers of the label look over them because they aren't cut from the typical cloth that is mostly in demand or they are reissues when most are looking for expansions. For instance, you'd probably be hard-pressed to find three other fans of Faltermeyer or the Barbarella album besides myself.


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 Post subject: Re: Can Varese Ever Satisfy "Fans"?
PostPosted: Mon Feb 12, 2018 2:14 pm 
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I believe the Club releases are all limited while the others listed are open-ended releases.

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 Post subject: Re: Can Varese Ever Satisfy "Fans"?
PostPosted: Mon Feb 12, 2018 10:47 pm 
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JeffG wrote:
I believe the Club releases are all limited while the others listed are open-ended releases.


Some non-Club releases are also limited, such as The Yakuza reissue which is limited to 1500 copies and Heaven Can Wait/Racing with the Moon reissue at 1000 copies. Barefoot in the Park/The Odd Couple is limited to 2000 copies, and so on.

I think it primarily has to do with the producers. The Club is Robert Townson's area, whereas other producers handle the older non-Club titles.


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 Post subject: Re: Can Varese Ever Satisfy "Fans"?
PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 6:32 am 
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Yes... reducing dozen different series of releases (since they are not distinguished in any way) and stopping with their sleeves bullshit would be a good start.

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 Post subject: Re: Can Varese Ever Satisfy "Fans"?
PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 11:55 am 
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Lokutus wrote:
Yes... reducing dozen different series of releases (since they are not distinguished in any way) and stopping with their sleeves bullshit would be a good start.


Say they better define their series and eliminate the sleeves bullshit. What would then be the source for the next wave of complaints? Booklet paper too thin? Spine design not eye-catching? Townson's glasses not stylish enough?


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 12:30 pm 
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T. Newman Fan wrote:
Lokutus wrote:
Yes... reducing dozen different series of releases (since they are not distinguished in any way) and stopping with their sleeves bullshit would be a good start.


Say they better define their series and eliminate the sleeves bullshit. What would then be the source for the next wave of complaints? Booklet paper too thin? Spine design not eye-catching? Townson's glasses not stylish enough?




Perhaps someone actually paying attention to their releases and doing some proper QC?? And fixing their own errors. With no exceptions.
But pretty much all labels have their ups and downs... Varese way too often, though.

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 Post subject: Re: Can Varese Ever Satisfy "Fans"?
PostPosted: Mon Feb 19, 2018 5:48 pm 
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Varese is releasing a 2-disc album for Peter Bernstein's 21 Jump Street scores. Just mentioning in case some cannot find it. :wink:

I can't wait to see complaints about its '80s synth-pop sound from those who always require loud orchestral bombast.


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 Post subject: Re: Can Varese Ever Satisfy "Fans"?
PostPosted: Tue Feb 20, 2018 5:21 am 
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T. Newman Fan wrote:
Varese is releasing a 2-disc album for Peter Bernstein's 21 Jump Street scores. Just mentioning in case some cannot find it. :wink:

I can't wait to see complaints about its '80s synth-pop sound from those who always require loud orchestral bombast.
The sound is probably too brickwalled :mrgreen:

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 Post subject: Re: Can Varese Ever Satisfy "Fans"?
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Brilliant. Truth in advertising.


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