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 Post subject: Complete Releases of David Arnold James Bond scores.
PostPosted: Wed Dec 02, 2015 11:43 am 
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I'd like to see complete releases to David Arnold's James Bond scores. Tomorrow Never Dies and Die Another Day received releases that were missing a lot of the score used in the films. A complete release of those two scores would be terrific. I'd take a complete release of Casino Royale as well.


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 Post subject: Re: Complete Releases of David Arnold James Bond scores.
PostPosted: Fri Mar 31, 2017 10:40 am 
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I'd like to see complete releases to David Arnold's James Bond scores. Tomorrow Never Dies and Die Another Day received releases that were missing a lot of the score used in the films. A complete release of those two scores would be terrific. I'd take a complete release of Casino Royale as well.


Will never happen. Eon/Danjaq are the problem. I had hoped that something would show up on the 50th anniversary, but nothing did. To make matters worse, album rights for each film seem to be all over the place. I think Madonna's company have DAD. David Arnold said in an interview that there was 60m missing from the original CD!

Like 80s cartoon scores and Tangerine Dream expansions, I have given this up for dead.

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 Post subject: Re: Complete Releases of David Arnold James Bond scores.
PostPosted: Mon Apr 03, 2017 10:54 am 
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litefoot wrote:
musicfanatic wrote:
I'd like to see complete releases to David Arnold's James Bond scores. Tomorrow Never Dies and Die Another Day received releases that were missing a lot of the score used in the films. A complete release of those two scores would be terrific. I'd take a complete release of Casino Royale as well.


Will never happen. Eon/Danjaq are the problem. I had hoped that something would show up on the 50th anniversary, but nothing did. To make matters worse, album rights for each film seem to be all over the place. I think Madonna's company have DAD. David Arnold said in an interview that there was 60m missing from the original CD!

Never say never again. :wink:

I'm confident that these expansions will happen eventually.

I don't think Arnold's Bond scores are nuanced enough to make expansions all that interesting, but that's just me. Kamen's Licence to Kill score is a different story.


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 Post subject: Re: Complete Releases of David Arnold James Bond scores.
PostPosted: Tue Apr 04, 2017 6:01 am 
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T. Newman Fan wrote:
Never say never again. :wink:

I'm confident that these expansions will happen eventually.

I don't think Arnold's Bond scores are nuanced enough to make expansions all that interesting, but that's just me. Kamen's Licence to Kill score is a different story.


On those points I must disagree. Tomorrow Never Dies, Arnold's first effort, had some of the most exciting Bond music since The Living Daylights in 1987. It may not have the memorable themes of Barry's Bond work, but my goodness, it's wonderfully entertaining stuff. Both the original album and the Chapter III release contain pretty much the whole score so there's no need for a re-release unless you want the whole thing in a new package. The full score plus songs wouldn't fit on one CD anyway.

The World Is Not Enough takes the music further into techno and once again is rip roariously entertaining (Come In 007, Your Time Is Up/Ice Bandits/Caviar Factory being particular highlights). It would certainly merit an expansion (the end credits music is fantastic).

Die Another Day is perhaps not as good as Arnold's first two efforts, but as I said above, is missing 60 minutes, including that wonderful first cue as Bond surfs on to the beach, and a full release would be most welcome.

Casino Royale had most of the music released, but across different formats, to many people's annoyance, so a complete CD set of that would go down a storm. Especially the end credits sequence 'Crawl, End Crawl'.

A Quantum of Solace had a pretty complete release as I understand it.

Unfortunately, even if EON/Danjaq *did* authorise expansions, I suspect they would only be done as bricks n'mortar releases and wouldn't get the full, lush La La Land/Intrada deluxe treatments we've grown accustomed to.

It's also worth pointing out that when Lukas was called in to do those early 2000s expansions, he wasn't given the time and budget to do complete, deluxe releases - Golden Gun and Octopussy were originally in the plans but had to be dropped. We were lucky to get what we did, really.

I would love to see Eon/Danjaq go back to Lukas, or Intrada or LLL, and ask them to do complete deluxe, final word treatments of most Bond scores, but I don't share your optimism. I suspect the powers that be at EON/Danjaq have no interest in releasing more Bond expansions, or we would have seen them for the 50th anniversary.

As regards Licence To Kill... that's actually one of my least favourite Bond scores. The Bond franchise has the richest musical history of any film franchise - I would happily buy expansions of every film... except Dr No and Licence To Kill. I've watched both films many times and can't get into them musically. No disrespect to Mr Kamen - I love his Prince of Thieves score, my first ever CD soundtrack - but I don't enjoy that original LTK album much, and there's no missing music during the film that leaps out at me as deserving a CD release.

And, yes, I would even buy a new release of Goldeneye!

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 Post subject: Re: Complete Releases of David Arnold James Bond scores.
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litefoot wrote:
but I don't enjoy that original LTK album much, and there's no missing music during the film that leaps out at me as deserving a CD release.

That album is an editing nightmare, the final track especially being non-musical in edit flow.

Many call LTK one of their least favorite Bond scores. Personally, I like a Bond score that doesn't insist on being loud for the sake of being loud. The performance by the NPO is perfection, as well as the recorded sound.


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 Post subject: Re: Complete Releases of David Arnold James Bond scores.
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T. Newman Fan wrote:
litefoot wrote:
but I don't enjoy that original LTK album much, and there's no missing music during the film that leaps out at me as deserving a CD release.

That album is an editing nightmare, the final track especially being non-musical in edit flow.

Many call LTK one of their least favorite Bond scores. Personally, I like a Bond score that doesn't insist on being loud for the sake of being loud.


Which Bond scores did you have in mind?

I'm intrigued to see where they go with the next film. Sam Mendes isn't doing it so Thomas Newman won't either.

Personally I think it would be great fun to give it to John Williams and see what he comes up with. He surely wouldn't be able to resist.

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 Post subject: Re: Complete Releases of David Arnold James Bond scores.
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I'm intrigued to see where they go with the next film. Sam Mendes isn't doing it so Thomas Newman won't either.

Personally I think it would be great fun to give it to John Williams and see what he comes up with. He surely wouldn't be able to resist.

Daniel Pemberton would be a good pick if the filmmakers want something that borders on classic Bond pastiche.

I say Alan Silvestri should get a go at it, and be left to do his own thing.


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 Post subject: Re: Complete Releases of David Arnold James Bond scores.
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T. Newman Fan wrote:
litefoot wrote:
I'm intrigued to see where they go with the next film. Sam Mendes isn't doing it so Thomas Newman won't either.

Personally I think it would be great fun to give it to John Williams and see what he comes up with. He surely wouldn't be able to resist.
I say Alan Silvestri should get a go at it, and be left to do his own thing.
I too wouldn't mind hearing a JW sounding Bond score & Silvestri would be a great choice too. All depends on the next director I suppose, but if Chris Nolan gets the gig then no doubt Zimmer will be blasting out a Bond theme.

Going back to the original thread though, out of all the Arnold scores I particularly enjoy Tomorrow Never Dies, so to have that expanded/ complete would be nice. My main grail though has to be Kamen's License To Kill so would support a release of that Bond title any day of the week.


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 Post subject: Re: Complete Releases of David Arnold James Bond scores.
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T. Newman Fan wrote:
litefoot wrote:
I'm intrigued to see where they go with the next film. Sam Mendes isn't doing it so Thomas Newman won't either.

Personally I think it would be great fun to give it to John Williams and see what he comes up with. He surely wouldn't be able to resist.
I say Alan Silvestri should get a go at it, and be left to do his own thing.
I too wouldn't mind hearing a JW sounding Bond score & Silvestri would be a great choice too. All depends on the next director I suppose, but if Chris Nolan gets the gig then no doubt Zimmer will be blasting out a Bond theme.

Going back to the original thread though, out of all the Arnold scores I particularly enjoy Tomorrow Never Dies, so to have that expanded/ complete would be nice. My main grail though has to be Kamen's License To Kill so would support a release of that Bond title any day of the week.


I strongly doubt Nolan would do a Bond film, because he won't have complete creative control. Mendes had a lot but not 100%.

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