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 Post subject: July 25th Release
PostPosted: Fri Jul 21, 2017 9:01 am 
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Next week's release won't be that exciting to many of you as it's a reissue (with some slight remastering) of an earlier Special Collection release that went out of print very quickly, so we felt some missed out and deserved a run at it.


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 Post subject: Re: July 25th Release
PostPosted: Fri Jul 21, 2017 9:28 am 
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Personally hoping for Horner's Jack the Bear. But I would also guess The China Syndrome, which I remember as having sold out in a day or two.


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 Post subject: Re: July 25th Release
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I think it is Baby: Secret of the Lost Legend, Jerry Goldsmith. Todays its his anniversary of his passing. RIP.


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 Post subject: Re: July 25th Release
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Only release in two weeks and another useless one... I guess it is good to save a few bucks.

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 Post subject: Re: July 25th Release
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Lokutus wrote:
Only release in two weeks and another useless one... I guess it is good to save a few bucks.


Useless for you or for everyone?


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 Post subject: Re: July 25th Release
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Roger Feigelson wrote:
Lokutus wrote:
Only release in two weeks and another useless one... I guess it is good to save a few bucks.


Useless for you or for everyone?

In his mind, he is everyone. You could release ten Beltrami premieres in one day and he will show the same "what have you done for me lately" attitude the following week.


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 Post subject: Re: July 25th Release
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There are a number that have been long out of print. Horner's Wolfen, Honey I Shrunk The Kids and Goldsmith's Baby come to mind.

I await, anticipate and contemplate...


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 Post subject: Re: July 25th Release
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T. Newman Fan wrote:
Roger Feigelson wrote:
Lokutus wrote:
Only release in two weeks and another useless one... I guess it is good to save a few bucks.


Useless for you or for everyone?

In his mind, he is everyone. You could release ten Beltrami premieres in one day and he will show the same "what have you done for me lately" attitude the following week.



Ah, so his feedback isn't particularly useful. Noted.


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 Post subject: Re: July 25th Release
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According to Doug's clue or post on FSM. I'm going to go with Explorers which actually DID sell out in less than four hours after its' announcement in 2011 which changed the limited editions as we see today now and for the right reasons. Thank God for that! :D


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 Post subject: Re: July 25th Release
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lawandorder wrote:
According to Doug's clue or post on FSM. I'm going to go with Explorers which actually DID sell out in less than four hours after its' announcement in 2011 which changed the limited editions as we see today now and for the right reasons. Thank God for that! :D



Yeah. That might be it. Will be happy for either titles as the fans deserve it.


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 Post subject: Re: July 25th Release
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azahid wrote:
lawandorder wrote:
According to Doug's clue or post on FSM. I'm going to go with Explorers which actually DID sell out in less than four hours after its' announcement in 2011 which changed the limited editions as we see today now and for the right reasons. Thank God for that! :D



Yeah. That might be it. Will be happy for either titles as the fans deserve it.


If I remember correctly, Explorers sold out after 10 hours, not quite just 4. Also, while it was THE title / release that prompted Intrada to change their limited edition policy, there wasn't a re-release, but rather an extended printing. Roger said "...Another 500? Yeah, something like that..." Nevertheless, they just might re-release it. Who knows? I'm never the best at these types of guesses, but it's all good.


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 Post subject: Re: July 25th Release
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Roger- Can you tell us more of what the slight remastering entails? Better sound throughout the whole score, or just some problematic tracks from the previous issue?


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 Post subject: Re: July 25th Release
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Roger- Can you tell us more of what the slight remastering entails? Better sound throughout the whole score, or just some problematic tracks from the previous issue?

According to Doug's latest post in "Doug's Corner," it addresses a small gap in one of the tracks. I could be way off, but there seems to be a small gap in the middle of the track "The Visitors" on their Baby: Secret of the Lost Legend album. It could just be that the harmonics of that one particular part is odd.


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 Post subject: Re: July 25th Release
PostPosted: Sun Jul 23, 2017 9:00 pm 
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J-Name Composers wrote:
azahid wrote:
lawandorder wrote:
According to Doug's clue or post on FSM. I'm going to go with Explorers which actually DID sell out in less than four hours after its' announcement in 2011 which changed the limited editions as we see today now and for the right reasons. Thank God for that! :D



Yeah. That might be it. Will be happy for either titles as the fans deserve it.


If I remember correctly, Explorers sold out after 10 hours, not quite just 4. Also, while it was THE title / release that prompted Intrada to change their limited edition policy, there wasn't a re-release, but rather an extended printing. Roger said "...Another 500? Yeah, something like that..." Nevertheless, they just might re-release it. Who knows? I'm never the best at these types of guesses, but it's all good.


The reason I stated Explorers is definitely because Doug was quoted as saying after its' sell out:

"EXPLORERS is already just about sold out! We're not happy to see people get left out of such an exciting release. So we're arranging to quickly re-press an additional batch, enabling more people a chance to purchase the CD. So...

Effective immediately, Intrada plans on tweaking our limited edition model to have the quantity of CDs be more reflective of the demand. Golly!

The AFM historic rates policy remains in effect so these will, by definition, have a cap at 10,000 in any case. But our concern right now is avoiding sell-outs in 24 hours... or in this case, even less than that!!

We'll still produce limited editions, per se. If you folks love the title, we'll make enough to get around. BUT... there's always a but... the caveat will be that if you people have little interest in something we release (and we have plenty of limited editions that misfire) then we'll quickly drop that title from our active catalog and move on. As such, you may still need to make something of a quick decision on less obvious projects. Otherwise, you might check back in a few weeks to get a lowball item and it'll be gone. So we're going to keep some pressure on folks to prioritize. Our goal isn't to mothball the idea of limited editions. It's to avoid having people left out within the first day or two of release. When a limited edition sells really well, we'll make enough to meet your demand. When it slows down, we'll do the same. And if it just stalls, we'll cut it loose. YOU people get to be in charge!!

Bottom line. This is an experiment on our part to help get all of you folks who support this music a chance to get the releases you want. It's a window. It can't stay open for long, we still have licensing and AFM rules to play by. But it will allow us to make enough copies to meet your demands without overstocking... which would just sink our ship. And people who love to speculate will stay have a place in the strategy: we all will be guessing what the demand is on many titles anyway. If we're stuck with more copies than we'd like on something right off the bat... we'll delete it. And speculators may come out ahead. Personally, I'm saddened to see a title sell out instantly. Sure, I love the income. It's my livelihood. But I don't love seeing people lose out. So here's hoping this new limited edition policy at Intrada will help put you guys in the driver's seat on quantities.

This policy has no effect - obviously - on titles in which we are fortunate enough to control long-term licenses. Things like that will be in our catalog for the long haul: SILVERADO, TOMBSTONE, FIRST BLOOD, PATTON, THE WIND AND THE LION and so forth. We try to keep them around for generations, so to speak. Anyway, this is a dramatic change for the limited edition model we helped establish in the marketplace but perhaps we all may come out winners!

This goes without saying, I suppose, but this policy is an experiment. If it turns out that a lot of you folks buy titles like this JUST because they are limited, irregardless of the music, then we'll admit we shot ourselves in the foot. We'll put bandages on and follow your lead. Like I said, we're just trying right now to let YOU have some control. We understand that without you... there is no we."

9/8/11

STILL MORE POLICY STUFF!!

With two days past and myself, Roger, Jeff, George and Steve... and even Joe (when we could tear him away from working on CD art) all spending every hour available either processing sales or babbling about our policy changes, we've made time to start implementing our plans. Given the feedback (mostly positive), here are our next steps in getting CDs to as many people as is practical while honoring the AFM and studio policies already in place. They're making this music possible, of course. (And, by the way, the feedback from those peerless musicians of the AFM is heartwarming.) Anyway, here goes round two.

We've already locked down our terminology, or branding if you will, that will appear on newly printed inlay cards for the second batch of EXPLORERS as well as on future releases. We're not huge fans of people buying and instantly re-selling our CDs at inflated prices even before we begin shipping the discs out but we understand the nature of business and say 'more power to them' if folks want to invest in their futures by chancing their cash on soundtracks. Investments help keep our free enterprise system chugging along. So we're literally branding any "second editions" and whatnot accordingly. I myself collect "first editions", so this lets me continue doing so. If your EXPLORERS has the original 3000 number on it, yep, it's a "first edition". Just like the world of books and whatever. But PLEASE don't simply label these things "limited editions" any more, and here's our reasoning why.

EVERYTHING'S becoming a limited edition. Those two words have become meaningless. The terminolgy was never intended to be a marketing tool but was designed by it's "authors" to facilitate the release of a small quantity of albums into the hands of dedicated fans while keeping the costs feasible. That was it! Somehow, it's just grown into a monster eating itself alive by labels everywhere branding everything "limited", though the actual market interest may be smaller than the printed number indicated! Even major labels issue stuff and drop it without fanfare when sales recede. The net result is now a non-stop barrage of really worthy soundtracks masquerading as "limited" editions, all zooming towards the same small audience struggling to prioritize in the first place, be it Goldsmith or Fidenco, Bernstein or Plumeri. It's insane! Now, we know we can't have our cake and eat it, too. But maybe we can do something to help keep the lunatics from running the asylum. So... look for branding that distinguishes first editions from second editions and whatever. And PLEASE keep in mind: we have enough smarts to usually be in the ball park so don't often expect first printings, then second printings, then third ones and so forth. Usually one additional batch will do.

Finally, PLEASE think about the following because I have for three or four years now. No matter how CDs are branded, and how much a customer buys with the understanding of getting something limited, labels everywhere are RE-ISSUING stuff left and right. If you bought the Varese Sarabande CD Club issue of FLESH + BLOOD for it's unique appeal, you later found Prometheus improving on it and issuing it again. Frustrated? Well, after that disappeared, we improved on it yet again. And THAT disappeared. No doubt some enterprising label is readying it a fourth time. That spectacular limited CASINO ROYALE is coming out again soon. Heck, few things aren't. And - unlike rare original posters or prints that usually can't be improved upon - with CDs, each subsequent "reissue of a reissue" gets better! Think COMMANDO this week. So maybe the lunatics will keep on running the asylum afterall. I don't know. But I'm glad to know that while what we're doing may be brazen, it's helping us get more music out to you people. So stay tuned."

So to say that they just released only 500 more copies is dead flat out wrong. It got up to 10,000 quite possibly or fewer depending on the demand for it. I may not be right but either way Goldsmith fans will be very happy to see either one but considering the huge success of the series, Stranger Things...Explorers kind of fits this clue more so in a way.


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 Post subject: Re: July 25th Release
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I for one will be happy with either of these, since I missed out on both.

I will look at this with great interest. And thanks Intrada.


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